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	<title>Comments on: Machinima: a lion, or courage</title>
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	<description>Thoughts on Machinima and Life, and whether the two can peacefully co-exist</description>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to say that the definitions of machinima will widly vary from person to person for a long time to come. Maybe everyone needs to come together and write out what makes 'machinima' machinima.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say that the definitions of machinima will widly vary from person to person for a long time to come. Maybe everyone needs to come together and write out what makes &#8216;machinima&#8217; machinima.</p>
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		<title>By: bllius</title>
		<link>http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/04/21/machinima-a-lion-or-courage/#comment-9214</link>
		<dc:creator>bllius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to point out that the scientific process does not cast things in stone. It is a 'process' that is designed to get at the truth. Look at the recent definition of the word 'planet' that resulted in the ejection of Pluto from the set of planets orbing the sun. It's not even really that interesting what the final definition is (and in fact it may be changed in the future). What is more interesting is the process and discussions that took place that firmly resulted in a definition for a planet being created(there really wasn't one before) and the result that that definition had on the classification scheme (drawing Venn diagrams is fun!).

I prefer a definition of machinima that is ambiguous, not clearly defined, and likely to increase heart rates whenever it is mentioned simply because the process itself is more interesting than simply producing a standardized definition.

Besides, it's simply easier to find 'machinima' when that breadbox is big enough to encompass a wider variety of material than when the definition is narrowly applied, thus limiting my choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to point out that the scientific process does not cast things in stone. It is a &#8216;process&#8217; that is designed to get at the truth. Look at the recent definition of the word &#8216;planet&#8217; that resulted in the ejection of Pluto from the set of planets orbing the sun. It&#8217;s not even really that interesting what the final definition is (and in fact it may be changed in the future). What is more interesting is the process and discussions that took place that firmly resulted in a definition for a planet being created(there really wasn&#8217;t one before) and the result that that definition had on the classification scheme (drawing Venn diagrams is fun!).</p>
<p>I prefer a definition of machinima that is ambiguous, not clearly defined, and likely to increase heart rates whenever it is mentioned simply because the process itself is more interesting than simply producing a standardized definition.</p>
<p>Besides, it&#8217;s simply easier to find &#8216;machinima&#8217; when that breadbox is big enough to encompass a wider variety of material than when the definition is narrowly applied, thus limiting my choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Elf</title>
		<link>http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/04/21/machinima-a-lion-or-courage/#comment-9109</link>
		<dc:creator>Elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of reminds me of the discussions I've had in various classes over the years, regarding "Is it art?"

Some 'artists' create 'found objects' -- i.e. they go to a store, they buy something, and then stick it on a pedestal. A large portion of the academic art community seems to view this as art. I don't have strong feelings on the subject, but if you asked me for a straight answer, I would probably say "no, it isn't."

But then a lot of people don't look at engineering as art, and I do. I can see art in a neatly wired electrical panel, or the strange constructions and devices in the steam tunnels and storm drains underneath a city. Or a beautifully written program, or an intriguingly designed circuit. There is certainly a lot of inartistic, formulaic engineering, but then there's also cubism and the guy who put a urinal on display in a modern art museum.

I've sort of come to consider art as a spectrum; you can have things that are very artistic, and some that aren't at all, but in the middle it's hard to say that something either is art or isn't. I don't think any definition should extend that far. I will say, though, that I consider creativity to be an important part of art. The less creativity I see, the less artistic I tend to think a given thing is. Maybe that's just me.


I have my own personal definition of machinima though: Video created using a real time graphics engine or its assets. By this I would say that the video posted /is/ machinima, it just isn't very good machinima. Which is, of course, half a subjective statement in any case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of reminds me of the discussions I&#8217;ve had in various classes over the years, regarding &#8220;Is it art?&#8221;</p>
<p>Some &#8216;artists&#8217; create &#8216;found objects&#8217; &#8212; i.e. they go to a store, they buy something, and then stick it on a pedestal. A large portion of the academic art community seems to view this as art. I don&#8217;t have strong feelings on the subject, but if you asked me for a straight answer, I would probably say &#8220;no, it isn&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>But then a lot of people don&#8217;t look at engineering as art, and I do. I can see art in a neatly wired electrical panel, or the strange constructions and devices in the steam tunnels and storm drains underneath a city. Or a beautifully written program, or an intriguingly designed circuit. There is certainly a lot of inartistic, formulaic engineering, but then there&#8217;s also cubism and the guy who put a urinal on display in a modern art museum.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve sort of come to consider art as a spectrum; you can have things that are very artistic, and some that aren&#8217;t at all, but in the middle it&#8217;s hard to say that something either is art or isn&#8217;t. I don&#8217;t think any definition should extend that far. I will say, though, that I consider creativity to be an important part of art. The less creativity I see, the less artistic I tend to think a given thing is. Maybe that&#8217;s just me.</p>
<p>I have my own personal definition of machinima though: Video created using a real time graphics engine or its assets. By this I would say that the video posted /is/ machinima, it just isn&#8217;t very good machinima. Which is, of course, half a subjective statement in any case.</p>
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		<title>By: todnyc</title>
		<link>http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/04/21/machinima-a-lion-or-courage/#comment-9082</link>
		<dc:creator>todnyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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