Comments on: Another Giant Leap for Creative Commons http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/ Thoughts on Machinima and Life, and whether the two can peacefully co-exist Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:08:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Tom http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/#comment-12215 Tom Tue, 06 May 2008 06:40:12 +0000 http://z-studios.com/blog/?p=309#comment-12215 Thanks, Phil. Let me tell you, after all this helpful information I really don't care if you a alien or not. Vive la différence! Thanks, Phil. Let me tell you, after all this helpful information I really don’t care if you a alien or not. Vive la différence!

]]> By: Ricky Grove http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/#comment-12177 Ricky Grove Tue, 06 May 2008 02:22:27 +0000 http://z-studios.com/blog/?p=309#comment-12177 Great news, Overman. What a progressive thinking band. Great gift to the community. Great news, Overman. What a progressive thinking band. Great gift to the community.

]]> By: Overman http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/#comment-12152 Overman Mon, 05 May 2008 23:37:20 +0000 http://z-studios.com/blog/?p=309#comment-12152 And if you don't believe them, there's always <a href="http://www.spamgourmet.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.spamgourmet.com/</a> or any number of other disposable email services. You don't HAVE to give ANYONE your email address. And if you don’t believe them, there’s always http://www.spamgourmet.com/ or any number of other disposable email services. You don’t HAVE to give ANYONE your email address.

]]> By: kradproductions http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/#comment-12150 kradproductions Mon, 05 May 2008 23:31:35 +0000 http://z-studios.com/blog/?p=309#comment-12150 From theslip.nin.com: "this will be kept confidential and never used for spam." Bam. Nevermind. From theslip.nin.com:

“this will be kept confidential and never used for spam.”

Bam. Nevermind.

]]> By: kradproductions http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/#comment-12148 kradproductions Mon, 05 May 2008 23:29:41 +0000 http://z-studios.com/blog/?p=309#comment-12148 I am jamming as we speak! Very cool news! "you must give them your email in order to get the download link." For the Discipline single (discipline.nin.com) you had to enter your email address as well. While I'm not positive of it, I'm pretty sure there was a disclaimer as well stating that they would not sell your e-mail address. That site is gone now (if you type it in it will take you to theslip.nin.com) The site sends you an email with a code once you've entered your address and the code is automatically entered into the site upon clicking a link in the email. I think it's for statistical purposes (who downloaded it, who didn't, demographics, etc.) although I'm not sure how much information could be gathered from an email address. Something tells me I'd be surprised though. But it's Trent Reznor... if you can't trust him, who can you trust? I am jamming as we speak! Very cool news!

“you must give them your email in order to get the download link.”

For the Discipline single (discipline.nin.com) you had to enter your email address as well. While I’m not positive of it, I’m pretty sure there was a disclaimer as well stating that they would not sell your e-mail address. That site is gone now (if you type it in it will take you to theslip.nin.com)

The site sends you an email with a code once you’ve entered your address and the code is automatically entered into the site upon clicking a link in the email. I think it’s for statistical purposes (who downloaded it, who didn’t, demographics, etc.) although I’m not sure how much information could be gathered from an email address. Something tells me I’d be surprised though. But it’s Trent Reznor… if you can’t trust him, who can you trust?

]]> By: bllius http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/#comment-12141 bllius Mon, 05 May 2008 22:33:44 +0000 http://z-studios.com/blog/?p=309#comment-12141 Although technically the latest NiN stuff is 'free' in terms of dollars/cents, it's not free in terms of information, ie. you must give them your email in order to get the download link. Although technically the latest NiN stuff is ‘free’ in terms of dollars/cents, it’s not free in terms of information, ie. you must give them your email in order to get the download link.

]]> By: Overman http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/#comment-12099 Overman Mon, 05 May 2008 18:48:35 +0000 http://z-studios.com/blog/?p=309#comment-12099 If we take a literal understanding of the word "commercial," then commercial means having something to do with commerce, i.e. buying and selling of goods and commodities. I'm not a lawyer, just a reasonable guy; this seems a reasonable place to draw the line. Therefore, selling the rights to your work to a television company is a commercial use. Selling it on DVD or CD is a commercial use, as is selling it across the internet. Requiring someone to purchase a subscription (a good/service) in order to view your film is a commercial use. By this definition, however, festival / contest prizes are not a commercial use. Advertising is a hazy area; technically, most advertising has to do with commerce, but as long as the work is not involved in any way with the advertising itself one would think that the use is not considered commercial. If, for example, a piece of music was used IN an advertisement, then of course that's a commercial use. While I know of no legal precedent to establish this line with regard to advertising, it is encouraging that both Microsoft and Blizzard have made some allowance for advertising (in an adjunct manner) and contest prizes, even though they both make a general prohibition of "commercial use." By the way... just because someone is licensed to the public for noncommercial use does NOT mean that its author is unwilling to consider other options on a case-by-case basis, nor does it prohibit the author from having dual or multi licensing for a particular work. The key is, arrange these things AHEAD OF TIME with the artist if you anticipate they will come up; or have a backup plan (i.e. other substitute material). If we take a literal understanding of the word “commercial,” then commercial means having something to do with commerce, i.e. buying and selling of goods and commodities. I’m not a lawyer, just a reasonable guy; this seems a reasonable place to draw the line.

Therefore, selling the rights to your work to a television company is a commercial use. Selling it on DVD or CD is a commercial use, as is selling it across the internet. Requiring someone to purchase a subscription (a good/service) in order to view your film is a commercial use.

By this definition, however, festival / contest prizes are not a commercial use. Advertising is a hazy area; technically, most advertising has to do with commerce, but as long as the work is not involved in any way with the advertising itself one would think that the use is not considered commercial. If, for example, a piece of music was used IN an advertisement, then of course that’s a commercial use. While I know of no legal precedent to establish this line with regard to advertising, it is encouraging that both Microsoft and Blizzard have made some allowance for advertising (in an adjunct manner) and contest prizes, even though they both make a general prohibition of “commercial use.”

By the way… just because someone is licensed to the public for noncommercial use does NOT mean that its author is unwilling to consider other options on a case-by-case basis, nor does it prohibit the author from having dual or multi licensing for a particular work. The key is, arrange these things AHEAD OF TIME with the artist if you anticipate they will come up; or have a backup plan (i.e. other substitute material).

]]> By: Tom http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/05/05/another-giant-leap-for-creative-commons/#comment-12096 Tom Mon, 05 May 2008 18:28:20 +0000 http://z-studios.com/blog/?p=309#comment-12096 This will probably be stupid questions, but I never fully understand this "noncommercial" part. OK, this probably mean that if some television wants to buy my movie with that kind of music, I must say no? But, if, for example, I won money prize on some festival, this is not commercial. Or all this mean just that I can't sell DVD's with movies with these music? Many film festivals deals only with movies with copyrights free or licensed music, are they then all right with Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0? All this is still misty territory for me and I am dying for some sort of tutorial on subject, easy to follow and clear "Yes, you can" or "Don't you dare" examples. This will probably be stupid questions, but I never fully understand this “noncommercial” part.
OK, this probably mean that if some television wants to buy my movie with that kind of music, I must say no? But, if, for example, I won money prize on some festival, this is not commercial.
Or all this mean just that I can’t sell DVD’s with movies with these music?
Many film festivals deals only with movies with copyrights free or licensed music, are they then all right with Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0?
All this is still misty territory for me and I am dying for some sort of tutorial on subject, easy to follow and clear “Yes, you can” or “Don’t you dare” examples.

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