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[7:02:42 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Hey guys, still getting set up, one moment...
[7:02:49 PM] *** Philip R. Rice has changed the chat topic to "Talk the Machinima Talk"
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[7:02:55 PM] Ben says: np still on phone
[7:03:46 PM] ZachariahScott says: i
[7:03:47 PM] ZachariahScott says: w
[7:03:49 PM] ZachariahScott says: I SEE
[7:03:49 PM] *** Philip R. Rice added doogle300 to this chat
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[7:04:00 PM] ZachariahScott says: My eyes were trained on an incorrect widnwo
[7:04:03 PM] *** Philip R. Rice added Lucinda McNary to this chat
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[7:04:23 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Okay, let me gather folks here first, then we'll get a voice call going.
[7:04:24 PM] doogle300 says: hey guys
[7:04:34 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Welcome, everyone!
[7:04:38 PM] Elf says: Overman: you got the e-mail, right?
[7:04:38 PM] Lucinda McNary says: hello
[7:04:42 PM] Michael K Clements says: hey guys
[7:04:53 PM] doogle300 says: can i bring 2 people who have interest in this too please
[7:05:04 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Yes, sure.
[7:05:24 PM] *** doogle300 added narcoticgetz, wmv337 to this chat
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[7:05:36 PM] doogle300 says: thanks
[7:06:08 PM] doogle300 says: so what actually happens now?
[7:06:27 PM] Philip R. Rice says: I'm getting ready to start a conference call.  Stand by.
[7:06:33 PM] doogle300 says: ok
[7:06:36 PM] Lucinda McNary says: okay
[7:07:07 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Keep this window open, too, if you can... if you lose connection to the call, or if it gets too full, this will stay active throughout.
[7:07:25 PM] Ben says: muting due to phone brb
[7:07:27 PM] doogle300 says: sure thing
[7:07:46 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Narcotic / WMV, do you want in on the audio portion as well?
[7:07:54 PM] WmV is drunk. says: yes sir
[7:07:58 PM] NarcoticGetz says: yep
[7:08:20 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Ok, I'm going to send you a contact request so you'll show up in my list, then I can add you to the call.  Otay?
[7:08:30 PM] NarcoticGetz says: ok
[7:08:34 PM] WmV is drunk. says: alright
[7:08:42 PM] Elf says: Overman: I have 3 people in via SIP
[7:09:10 PM] Elf says: is that alright?
[7:09:18 PM] Elf says: I was trying to find you earlier but then it was getting close to 4
[7:09:21 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Yeah, that should be fine, Elf.
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[7:10:03 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Other than Damien and Michael, anyone else here non-North America?
[7:10:15 PM] doogle300 says: yes im not
[7:10:18 PM] Michael K Clements says: Ohhh I see where this is going
[7:10:20 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: hi everyone :)
[7:10:29 PM] Michael K Clements says: Section off the foreigners eh?
[7:10:30 PM] Michael K Clements says: lol
[7:10:47 PM] doogle300 says: that reminds me with johnnie ingram be with us tonight
[7:10:53 PM] ZachariahScott says: I'm in southern north america
[7:10:59 PM] ZachariahScott says: does that count
[7:11:02 PM] doogle300 says: lol
[7:11:05 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Right now we can fit everyone on the Skype call, but if it gets too full, people in US/Canada have option of using a land line, so just want to get a feel for that.
[7:13:21 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Working... just a moment...
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[7:18:11 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Okie dokie, I got everyone in except Ben (who's on the phone), and there are about 4 additional people connected via the 1-800 number.  Right now the Skype call is full, but we'll see who else shows and go from there.
[7:18:22 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Feel free to share links / etc. in this chat while we talk.
[7:21:48 PM] ZachariahScott says: http://www.vimeo.com/609147
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[7:23:36 PM] Philip R. Rice says: https://www.glassfish.net/not.nogg/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=2131
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[7:30:00 PM] Michael K Clements says: Excellent AE video tutorials - http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials.html
[7:30:35 PM] Frank Fox says: Hello, all! I'm plugged in on the 800 number
[7:30:42 PM] Elf says: greetings!
[7:30:43 PM] Michael K Clements says: Hey
[7:30:52 PM] doogle300 says: hey
[7:31:48 PM] ZachariahScott says: crysis
[7:32:44 PM] Frank Fox says: The game Crysis has mocap tools?
[7:32:58 PM] Michael K Clements says: mocap?
[7:33:01 PM] Philip R. Rice says: SynthEyes
[7:33:06 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Motion Tracking
[7:33:09 PM] Frank Fox says: motion capture
[7:33:14 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: the demo comes with the editor
[7:33:17 PM] Frank Fox says: wow
[7:33:21 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: i don't know how many features are included but it's there
[7:34:17 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Good overview of the topic:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_tracking
[7:34:32 PM] ZachariahScott says: http://stage6.divx.com/user/tortellino/video/1688750/CryENGINE%E2%84%A2-2-Character-Pipeline-Advances-for-Next-Gen
[7:34:46 PM] ZachariahScott says: theres the crysis video, the mocap data bit is around 16:00
[7:35:18 PM] Ben says: ok back off phone - reading notes.. :)
[7:35:40 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=se9BH0VCC9w - AE effects made by Ben from our group
[7:36:41 PM] Ben says: SIde note - I'm not that Ben - Sorry :)
[7:36:50 PM] Michael K Clements says: oh yeah, sorry
[7:36:53 PM] Michael K Clements says: Ben Hundley ;x
[7:36:55 PM] Elf says: <Thundara> http://www.hl2world.com/wiki/index.php/Creating_your_first_Faceposer_scene
[7:37:00 PM] Elf says: from the GM IRC channel
[7:37:07 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Oooh, nice, Elf.
[7:37:49 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Wrong link earlier re: Motion Tracking (sorry).  Correct one:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_moving
[7:37:51 PM] ZachariahScott says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=euZ0j7vtKEQ
[7:38:41 PM] Ben says: cute
[7:40:31 PM] Frank Fox says: In the 60s there was a cartoon called diver Dan where they superimposed human lips onto cartoo characters. What you said reminds me of that. Creepy
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[7:40:42 PM] Lucinda McNary says: LOL
[7:40:58 PM] Elf says: <Bemoliph> http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?postid=80649#post80649
[7:40:58 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I am curious - are most of you guys more interested in special effects than just making a straight movie?
[7:41:08 PM] ZachariahScott says: Its hard to not be
[7:41:12 PM] ZachariahScott says: thats a tough leaning to break
[7:41:17 PM] Thundara says: Storyline is always nice too
[7:41:21 PM] Frank Fox says: I'm sorry it was Clutch Cargo
[7:41:25 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Yes I know there is so much out there.
[7:41:26 PM] Michael K Clements says: I think it comes hand in hand
[7:41:26 PM] doogle300 says: no its just im very into the whole idea of putting the film toigether
[7:41:32 PM] Lucinda McNary says: You kind of have to put your blinders on.
[7:41:38 PM] ZachariahScott says: I'm trying to be more interested in the straight movie, but I definately started with the visual fixation
[7:41:57 PM] Frank Fox says: Having a hard time understanding whats being said. Underwater effects on the voices.
[7:42:14 PM] doogle300 says: lol yeah some people do sound a bit unclear
[7:42:17 PM] Ben says: Cue Fog Horn!
[7:42:32 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I hear them clear. I muted my mic because I have three kids here tonight and it is dinner time.
[7:42:41 PM] doogle300 says: lol
[7:42:43 PM] NarcoticGetz says: sounds fun
[7:42:52 PM] Elf says: Frank: some on the skype side seem to be unclear to me, but by and large ok
[7:43:06 PM] Frank Fox says: I didn't watch South Park for years because of it's low level art.
[7:43:12 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Frank, that happens to me when I get bad earwax buildup...
[7:43:16 PM] Philip R. Rice says: ;)
[7:43:29 PM] Ben says: huh? what's that  you say.. huh?
[7:43:38 PM] Philip R. Rice says: [7:41:57 PM] Frank Fox says: Having a hard time understanding whats being said. Underwater effects on the voices.
[7:43:40 PM] Frank Fox says: :) Been there done that last month.
[7:43:44 PM] Thundara says: South Park has state of the art graphics though
[7:43:47 PM] Philip R. Rice says: lol
[7:43:53 PM] Thundara says: (It's all done in Maya last I checked)
[7:44:13 PM] Elf says: haha using maya doesn't make it state of the art
[7:44:24 PM] Thundara says: http://www.apple.com/pro/profiles/southpark/
I know :P\
[7:44:30 PM] Frank Fox says: Still watching CryENGINE™ 2 Character Pipeline Advances for Next-Gen movie on Stage6 --- AMAZING!
[7:44:43 PM] ZachariahScott says: yeah, pretty crazy
[7:44:44 PM] ZachariahScott says: BUT
[7:45:04 PM] ZachariahScott says: theres not alot there if you're not  making "WAR MOVIE"
[7:45:36 PM] Frank Fox says: That was going to be my next question: can we mod the meshes? Guess not
[7:45:57 PM] Thundara says: You can always *mod* it ;)
[7:46:04 PM] ZachariahScott says: yeah you can mod it
[7:46:07 PM] ZachariahScott says: the game looks fantastic
[7:46:12 PM] ZachariahScott says: you can,
[7:46:18 PM] Frank Fox says: An old lady crossing the street carrying a giant pulse rifle?
[7:46:20 PM] ZachariahScott says: but that ramps things up a lot
[7:46:30 PM] Thundara says: Offer both?
[7:47:13 PM] Thundara says: I still have yet to watch it too =/
[7:47:52 PM] Lucinda McNary says: What kind of movies do most of you want to make?
[7:48:16 PM] Thundara says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jpeg#Photographs
[7:48:18 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i think it all really depends on the mood your in, well, if your writing it anyways
[7:48:43 PM] ZachariahScott says: yeah
[7:48:46 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Genre?
[7:48:48 PM] doogle300 says: yeah anything that sounds like a good and reasonably easy idea to pull of and it depends on the game
[7:48:51 PM] ZachariahScott says: I mean, theres a TON of potential with cryengine
[7:48:55 PM] Lucinda McNary says: War, crime, action, adventure
[7:48:57 PM] NarcoticGetz says: some might prefer a comical piece while the next day you might think of doing an action movie
[7:49:08 PM] ZachariahScott says: BUT
[7:49:16 PM] ZachariahScott says: I dunno, Its the style over substance thing
[7:49:20 PM] Thundara says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=FgJc3ayAqrU
[7:49:23 PM] ZachariahScott says: I think crysis has LOADS of substance, incredible tech
[7:49:28 PM] Thundara says: :P
[7:49:33 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: i tend to make scifi movies
[7:49:43 PM] ZachariahScott says: but games like COD4 look just as good with loads more style and better performance
[7:50:09 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Are most of you Moviestormers?
[7:50:10 PM] Frank Fox says: I'd like to be able to make whatever my imagination comes up with, mostly human condition movies, but most times without having a good avenue for special effects even normal situations are not achievable with the machinima software or games
[7:50:29 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i dont think i have seen a good action horror machinima film
[7:50:47 PM] Michael K Clements says: Well we're actually making a horror, not action.
[7:50:56 PM] Michael K Clements says: :D
[7:51:05 PM] doogle300 says: the main thing that me narcotic and will make have been on halo 2 but we really want to expand to more things
[7:51:08 PM] ZachariahScott says: Source engine specialists here
[7:51:23 PM] Will Vitale says: No lie.
[7:51:24 PM] NarcoticGetz says: yes, using halo as our machinima canvas so to speak
[7:51:37 PM] Will Vitale says: and/or farcry
[7:51:54 PM] doogle300 says: i got movie storm from johnnie ingram but i havent really had a chance to use it yet mainly because ive only just got  a new pc
[7:51:58 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Wht kind of art or writing background do you all have?
[7:52:59 PM] NarcoticGetz says: none really, just a really good imagination and creative mind, i've had a few people read a sorta rough draft to a couple scripts and said i could write novels, go figure :P
[7:53:12 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Okay Narcotic
[7:53:20 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Anyone else have a writing or art background?
[7:53:29 PM] Thundara says: Does regular school count?
[7:53:29 PM] doogle300 says: to be honest i think we are a bit young to be really good at machinima we are still learning thats why we wanted to come to this conference to see what klind of stuff we need to do. im on a course for media which focuses on all things from script writing to editing and directing
[7:53:39 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: pretty much the same as narcotic, though i did take a creative writing class once
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[7:53:52 PM] ZachariahScott says: I have no background whatsoever. just winging it
[7:53:54 PM] Lucinda McNary says: So Damien and doogle you are in college, high school?
[7:54:04 PM] doogle300 says: im in college
[7:54:09 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: finishing my last year of college
[7:54:18 PM] doogle300 says: im in my second year
[7:54:21 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i cant afford college yet :(
[7:54:29 PM] doogle300 says: lol its free for me
[7:54:36 PM] Lucinda McNary says: So you are just starting out then.
[7:54:37 PM] doogle300 says: except material fees
[7:54:39 PM] NarcoticGetz says: oh rub it in why dont ya doogle
[7:54:57 PM] doogle300 says: yeah but its not really anything to do with machinima just general media
[7:55:09 PM] Thundara says: Illegal Danish...
[7:55:10 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Oh ell machinima is just a tool to use
[7:56:19 PM] NarcoticGetz says: how does everyone go about writing their scripts, do you just like go with an idea you have and build on it? or do you plan it out as you go?
[7:56:25 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: how about you lucinda?
[7:56:32 PM] NarcoticGetz says: wait arent those the same things?
[7:56:52 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Well it depends. The current movie I am working on I thought of with my daughter who is 13 going on 14 and actually she wrote a lot of the dialogue for it.
[7:57:13 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Then I just start making the scenes and getting the chracters in my mind and just putting it all together.
[7:57:17 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I work in my mind a lot.
[7:57:22 PM] Philip R. Rice says: The lag issues for the audio call, some explanation:  we've got people from North America, Europe, Australia... plus several people connected via a landline bridge.  So that's the reason we're all having to compete a bit.  Thanks for your patience with it!  :)
[7:57:49 PM] Ben says: never!
[7:57:54 PM] Ben says: ^
[7:57:58 PM] Lucinda McNary says: So I always have in my mind the beginning of the story, middle and the end, conclusion.
[7:58:04 PM] Lucinda McNary says: And I just fill it in.
[7:58:18 PM] NarcoticGetz says: whats everyones opinion on what makes a film, really come together?
[7:58:23 PM] Elf says: yep, also there's an echo echo echo!
[7:58:28 PM] doogle300 says: lol
[7:58:31 PM] Elf says: for whomever is using both speakers and a microphone :P
[7:58:41 PM] Lucinda McNary says: For me it has to be interesting, so I dont get bored.
[7:58:50 PM] Thundara says: Kick one person at a time till it stops :P
[7:58:53 PM] Philip R. Rice says: I'm a lot less structured in my initial approach to story, I tend to deliberately avoid templates / etc.  But as it gets closer to screenplay time, I tend to sculpt / edit based on some more traditional techniques.
[7:59:29 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I write a lot of the dialogue as I have the characters on the screen in front of me.
[7:59:32 PM] doogle300 says: yeah samne here i go with it and see how it turns out, then get a second opinion and edit it due to audience opinions
[7:59:34 PM] Lucinda McNary says: They kind of have a life of their own.
[7:59:40 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Does anyone have SPEAKERS on instead of HEADPHONES?  If so, could you turn 'em down just a tad?
[7:59:52 PM] Lucinda McNary says: No just speakers and I have my mic muted.
[7:59:55 PM] Philip R. Rice says: (capitalizing for attention, not shouting)  :)
[7:59:58 PM] NarcoticGetz says: the echo is kinda scary
[7:59:59 PM] ZachariahScott says: I do, but they're pretty quiet
[8:00:00 PM] Lucinda McNary says: No I mean headphones
[8:00:02 PM] doogle300 says: lol
[8:00:11 PM] Michael K Clements says: think it's someone on the 800 number
[8:00:27 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: lucinda: i did that with consanguinity, no script, just an idea of what i wanted to do with the story, the dialogue wasn't actually written until i was putting in the subtitles
[8:00:41 PM] Ben says: all i did was sneeze
[8:00:43 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Damien, tht is how I am.
[8:00:48 PM] Ben says: again
[8:00:57 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I get some really funny lines going that way.
[8:01:22 PM] NarcoticGetz says: in a comedy movie, would you say spontanieous actions or dialoge along with improvision is best?
[8:01:54 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Narcotic, all together, although I never realized before recently that I had a sense of humor.
[8:02:13 PM] Lucinda McNary says: But I use everything that happens around me. Things that people say to me, life situations.
[8:02:16 PM] Thundara says: BEST MOVIE EVAR!!!
[8:02:18 PM] Lucinda McNary says: My daughter makes up the best lines.
[8:02:24 PM] Will Vitale says: improvision, thas how everry one of my films has ever been made
[8:02:25 PM] Thundara says: YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE SAY!!!
[8:02:55 PM] doogle300 says: yeah and look how they turned out will
[8:02:57 PM] doogle300 says: jk
[8:03:05 PM] Lucinda McNary says: LOL
[8:03:10 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: heh
[8:03:15 PM] NarcoticGetz says: he does kinda have a point will
[8:03:17 PM] NarcoticGetz says: :P
[8:03:29 PM] Elf says: I mute my soft phone when not talking
[8:03:32 PM] Elf says: it helps
[8:03:43 PM] Ben says: i dunno how
[8:03:47 PM] doogle300 says: nah ive worked with will and narcotic and we definately need to work on our ideas but we also have the potential it just needs unlocking
[8:03:56 PM] Will Vitale says: my most viewed youtube film has 2000+views, ive never promoted my films. ever
[8:04:04 PM] doogle300 says: its mostly down to the programs that we use to film and cvapture
[8:04:10 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Wow, that is great Will
[8:04:12 PM] NarcoticGetz says: and edit
[8:04:15 PM] Will Vitale says: its not much
[8:04:21 PM] Will Vitale says: but it makes me happy to see
[8:04:27 PM] doogle300 says: brb
[8:04:31 PM] Thundara says: If your work is good enough, and if you get a few early/devoted fans, your movies will spread sooner or later :P
[8:04:43 PM] Lucinda McNary says: This is awful and I dont do it but did you kow that if you just keep clicking on a You Tube movie the count rises? LOL
[8:04:59 PM] Will Vitale says: yes, i do, lol
[8:05:11 PM] Ricky Grove says: So, if I clicked 20,000 times the count would go up?
[8:05:20 PM] NarcoticGetz says: very true
[8:05:22 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I just found that out last night.  Yes Ricky it would.
[8:05:41 PM] Elf says: btw if you are on the 800 #
[8:05:41 PM] Ricky Grove says: my fingers hurt just thinking about it
[8:05:42 PM] Thundara says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9BH0VCC9w
Quick!!!
[8:05:49 PM] Elf says: you should be able to press "*" and 1 to mute/unmute yourself
[8:05:50 PM] Elf says: while not talking
[8:05:54 PM] Lucinda McNary says: But I want an honest appraisal of my movie because all in all if you make the count yourself and get it to the top, people still arent watching it so what is the difference.
[8:05:59 PM] Elf says: it may help with the echo
[8:06:33 PM] Thundara says: That's really bad now =/
[8:06:48 PM] Ricky Grove says: I tried the unmute/mute but it's still pretty bad
[8:07:09 PM] Frank Fox says: I muted myself and the echo continued. I'm usuing headphones
[8:07:22 PM] Elf says: yeah it will just continue until whomever is echoing mutes
[8:07:51 PM] Frank Fox says: yep, just reporting in. I'm innocent I tells ya! Innocent!
[8:07:55 PM] Elf says: hahaha
[8:08:14 PM] Michael K Clements says: someone hijacked the phone line!
[8:08:44 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Oh I hear the echo now
[8:09:02 PM] Thundara says: Haha, there's a big delay
[8:09:03 PM] Lucinda McNary says: How funny
[8:09:20 PM] Will Vitale says: just an update, most viewed video, almost 4k, i havent watched it in like a year either, lol
[8:09:31 PM] Elf says: <Bemoliph> Special Agent Fox Mulder and Special Agent Dana Scully of the FBI
           are listening because someone here is an alien abductee
[8:09:42 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: i'm an alien
[8:09:45 PM] doogle300 says: damn there on tome
[8:09:56 PM] Ben says: O.J has been patented.
[8:09:58 PM] Thundara says: Someone copyright "Copyright"!
[8:10:10 PM] NarcoticGetz says: copyrighted
[8:10:11 PM] Will Vitale says: on it
[8:10:13 PM] ZachariahScott says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9R9JCJ_kyzA
[8:11:03 PM] Frank Fox says: Copyright is a registered trademark of Kinkos "Copy Right" ad campaign
[8:11:44 PM] NarcoticGetz says: listen to the echo
[8:12:01 PM] NarcoticGetz says: oh ya
[8:12:04 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i seen them
[8:12:11 PM] ZachariahScott says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mx871O9MJag
[8:12:12 PM] NarcoticGetz says: and then makes a lil music video after words
[8:12:34 PM] NarcoticGetz says: smooth doogle
[8:12:39 PM] NarcoticGetz says: real smooth
[8:12:43 PM] NarcoticGetz says: no you dont
[8:13:09 PM] Elf says: Overman: want me to mute people one by one on the TF side to try and cut the echo?
[8:13:25 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Sure...
[8:14:19 PM] Frank Fox says: Ok now it sounds like the giant crickets from a 50s sci fi movie
[8:14:45 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i hear someone franticly typing
[8:14:52 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I do too
[8:14:58 PM] NarcoticGetz says: lol
[8:15:05 PM] Ben says: still echoing?
[8:15:11 PM] Philip R. Rice says: I'm looking into some other options for next time.  Michael (Elf) has something I'm going to look into, and I'm also a DimDim beta tester, so I'm gonna look at that too.  (it's a web conference solution)
[8:15:14 PM] Ricky Grove says: It's against my nature, but I've muted myself
[8:15:14 PM] Elf says: I dont' hear any echo
[8:15:23 PM] Elf says: hahaha
[8:15:29 PM] Ben says: I've shut up :)
[8:15:29 PM] Elf says: Ricky: I don't think it's your line
[8:15:30 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i mean its like clickclicklcikclicklicklicklcikclicklcikclcliokcliccolliclckciclkclilk cuz it made a different noise halfway through
[8:15:41 PM] Elf says: you can unmute and see if the echo comes back
[8:15:42 PM] Ricky Grove says: Yes, I've muted myself and I feel ashamed
[8:16:08 PM] Elf says: ah there it goes
[8:16:21 PM] NarcoticGetz says: echo
[8:17:10 PM] Ben says: ok I've muted myself perm.
[8:18:03 PM] NarcoticGetz says: ya i dont think many of us plan on making money off of microsoft games, just good fun in making machinima
[8:18:13 PM] NarcoticGetz says: lottery
[8:18:17 PM] NarcoticGetz says: its a contest ...
[8:19:13 PM] doogle300 says: yeah the way you could do it is start off making films on microsoft games then move on to other thing once people recognise your work
[8:19:15 PM] NarcoticGetz says: oh ya, that is where the market is, at least without being sued
[8:19:42 PM] Philip R. Rice says: What Peter said... http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/01/09/lit-music/
[8:19:46 PM] Philip R. Rice says: (kind of)
[8:20:08 PM] NarcoticGetz says: ... whered the sun go?
[8:20:16 PM] Ricky Grove says: Just too chaotic soundwise for me to listen...I'll stay here with the text chat.
[8:20:39 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Yes me too. Besides we are watchng CHUCK on TV and eating dinner
[8:20:39 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://music.litfusefilms.com/ to support Phil's comment
[8:20:54 PM] Philip R. Rice says: :)
[8:21:20 PM] NarcoticGetz says: point well made
[8:21:37 PM] Ricky Grove says: Hope you are having a nice meal...hehe.. :D
[8:21:50 PM] Lucinda McNary says: spagetti
[8:21:54 PM] Ricky Grove says: oops, wrong emoticon... :)
[8:22:01 PM] NarcoticGetz says: god i hate these headphones, hurtin mah ears
[8:22:30 PM] Ricky Grove says: Ah, we are having seasoned catfish and dirty rice tonight while watching a Mario Bava film
[8:22:40 PM] Thundara says: Rooster Teeth did a neat thing when Halo 2 came out
[8:22:53 PM] Ricky Grove says: what would that be?
[8:23:15 PM] Thundara says: Which WoW version? :P
[8:23:26 PM] doogle300 says: im not sure
[8:23:27 PM] Ben says: Private Sever is illigal :-\
[8:23:42 PM] Thundara says: Illegal?
[8:23:55 PM] Ben says: yes
[8:24:02 PM] Ben says: it's considered Piracy
[8:24:04 PM] ZachariahScott says: yeo
[8:24:10 PM] ZachariahScott says: cause you're not paying to play
[8:24:35 PM] Frank Fox says: I definitely cooperate with all copyright notices. ;)
[8:24:52 PM] doogle300 says: the only reason i wanted to use a private server was because they dont have servers for eu and us in one
[8:25:02 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Frank, I thought you knew, I own the copyright on the word "cooperate."  Pay up.
[8:25:08 PM] Elf says: oh it's understandable that people would want to use private servers
[8:25:09 PM] doogle300 says: lol
[8:25:12 PM] Elf says: I don't agree with blizzard's position on it
[8:25:22 PM] Elf says: it's just they have a history of being very overly litigeous
[8:25:24 PM] NarcoticGetz says: in all honesty, i think second life has good potential for machinima, but if your computer isnt decent it runs like crap
[8:25:36 PM] Frank Fox says: I own the phrase "you knew" so we're even
[8:25:53 PM] Philip R. Rice says: In SL, a kind of private server IS possible (and not illegal), btw.
[8:26:06 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Google for a project called (I think):  OpenSim.
[8:26:17 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Not easy to set up, but has a lot of potential.
[8:26:20 PM] Michael K Clements says: Private servers in any source game is encouraged :x probably cause they're mostly MP games anyway
[8:26:21 PM] Frank Fox says: I'm am in SL more than I care to admit these days
[8:26:29 PM] Philip R. Rice says: I'd love to get something like that running on a LAN... that would rock.
[8:26:31 PM] NarcoticGetz says: oh speaking of sims, the sims 2, what do you all make of that as a frontier for machiinima?
[8:26:33 PM] doogle300 says: i like second life for the machinima ive seen but the thing is it doesnt really run that well
[8:26:44 PM] doogle300 says: actually i havent tried sl since i got my new pc
[8:27:17 PM] Frank Fox says: Even if you have a godzilla PC it still breaks too often Grrrr
[8:27:21 PM] Philip R. Rice says: The Sims 2 is a phenomenal platform in virtually all respects except for legal ambiguity. (EA has not made a specific stance on machinima, so it's up in the air)
[8:27:33 PM] Philip R. Rice says: (for certain kinds of story telling, anyway)
[8:27:52 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: ea will wait until i'm just about to release my next project (using the sims 2) to take a stance
[8:28:06 PM] Philip R. Rice says: haha yeah
[8:28:08 PM] Thundara says: Overman, did you use Sims or Sims 2?
[8:28:29 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Sims 2.  I played the original Sims, but never tried machinima with it.
[8:28:34 PM] Thundara says: By the way, from the earlier conversation: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/community/spotlight/baron/
[8:28:35 PM] Ricky Grove says: Your recent blog post on Sims2 as a machinima platform put it right at the top. And I agree. If not for the legal issues, I'd be all over it.
[8:28:54 PM] NarcoticGetz says: sims can practically be used for everything save action, adventure maybe, stuff that requires something special to make it work
[8:29:07 PM] Philip R. Rice says: http://z-studios.com/blog/2008/01/15/talkies/
[8:29:14 PM] Philip R. Rice says: (What Ricky was referring to)
[8:29:31 PM] doogle300 says: the biggest let down in movie making was the movies its justy a shit version of moviestorm theres no freedom
[8:29:36 PM] NarcoticGetz says: whats a prefered editting program, i dont know if this was talked about as i left for a smoke
[8:29:52 PM] Frank Fox says: I'm going to drop off now. I have to go out for dinner. Thanks for hosting this and inviting the likes of me!
[8:29:58 PM] Thundara says: Compositing or editing?
[8:30:01 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Ricky, Peter is asking about machiniplex, how it's going?  If you want to respond here, I'll speak it in the audio...
[8:30:02 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: see you around frank :)
[8:30:04 PM] Elf says: bye!
[8:30:08 PM] Philip R. Rice says: No F-words, please.
[8:30:15 PM] Philip R. Rice says: See you, Frank!
[8:30:24 PM] Frank Fox says: adios amigos!!
[8:30:31 PM] NarcoticGetz says: bye frank
[8:30:39 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Oh, looks like Ricky is away.  n/m
[8:30:42 PM] doogle300 says: bye man
[8:30:49 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Bye Frank
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[8:31:43 PM] Ricky Grove says: ah, Machiniplex is coming along...slowly...We've had some work issues since Ingrid has a huge new job at Disney and Jason is awol. I'm basically doing it all myself in between a billion other commitments. We are committed to doing a new premiere each month.
[8:32:05 PM] Lucinda McNary says: What is Machiniplex?
[8:32:14 PM] Philip R. Rice says: www.machiniplex.com
[8:32:14 PM] Ricky Grove says: http://www.machiniplex.com
[8:32:19 PM] Ricky Grove says: he he
[8:33:40 PM] Ricky Grove says: It's a site (rather small right now) devoted to presenting quality machinima films (by our standards; Jason Choi, Ingrid Moon, and myself, Ricky Grove) and that's it pretty much. No forums, no advertising, just the films themselves presented in a simple flash site. We do occasional premieres where we invite a filmmaker and premiere their new film.
[8:33:53 PM] Ricky Grove says: http://www.blogspot.machiniplex.com
[8:33:58 PM] ZachariahScott says: NO FORUMS?
[8:34:01 PM] ZachariahScott says: NO ADVERTISING!
[8:34:06 PM] Ricky Grove says: Nope. Nope and nope.
[8:34:10 PM] Ben says: yay!
[8:34:12 PM] ZachariahScott says: but where will people flame or click popups!
[8:34:18 PM] Ricky Grove says: No news either.
[8:34:20 PM] Will Vitale says: sounds like something im interested in
[8:34:21 PM] doogle300 says: lmao
[8:34:22 PM] Thundara says: Must be a gimmick then, eh? :P
[8:34:27 PM] doogle300 says: yeah it does sound good
[8:34:30 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Ricky... couple questions from the audio...
[8:34:34 PM] Ricky Grove says: sure..
[8:34:40 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Yes I would like to put some films on there.
[8:34:46 PM] Philip R. Rice says: 1)  What are you guys doing as far as web host for machiniplex?
[8:35:01 PM] Philip R. Rice says: 2) Any stats available on how many visitors it's getting?
[8:35:02 PM] Ricky Grove says: I'm not sure. Jason set it all up and he's not responding to emails.
[8:35:21 PM] Ricky Grove says: Haven't checked the stats recently. Will do and post on a future blog at machiniplex blog.
[8:36:28 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Looks like you have a nice mix of different kinds of films made with different games.
[8:36:35 PM] Ricky Grove says: Lucinda, you are welcome to submit your films to either Ingrid or myself. Be happy to consider them for the site. We are particularly interested in new films. Can be of any type, style or game engine. The only criteria is that they must be of high quality.
[8:36:52 PM] Ricky Grove says: I like to think we have a nice mix.
[8:37:07 PM] Lucinda McNary says: How large a file can you have?
[8:37:34 PM] Ricky Grove says: We began the site in October, I believe. Eventually, we hope to have a "classics" section where we will archive quality films from early in machiima history.
[8:37:56 PM] Ricky Grove says: I don't think there is a size issue. Bloodspell is on our site and well over 1Gb in size.
[8:37:58 PM] Philip R. Rice says: I know someone who has a MASSIVE collection of classic machinima films.  *cough*  *cough*
[8:38:10 PM] Philip R. Rice says: *cough*  Ben  *cough*
[8:38:13 PM] Ricky Grove says: should get that cough looked at phil.
[8:38:19 PM] Ricky Grove says: Ben...gay?
[8:38:21 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Well tht is good because I make high quality HD films of my stuff.
[8:38:31 PM] Ben says: oh not again
[8:38:34 PM] NarcoticGetz says: watched
[8:38:39 PM] Ricky Grove says: excellent, Lucinida.
[8:38:42 PM] NarcoticGetz says: that was a good sims 2 film
[8:38:52 PM] NarcoticGetz says: very well made
[8:38:57 PM] Ricky Grove says: sorry, ben. late in the day..no coffee.
[8:39:15 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i've been up for 23 hours ^^
[8:39:19 PM] doogle300 says: i just drank a pint of coffee
[8:39:21 PM] Ben says: now if I could only get paid for that comment I would be rich :)
[8:39:22 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Yes I just discovered that Ifilm which is now Spike TV will let me link to my films on VEOH and since VEOH doesnt have any size restriction, I can put the highest quality films on there now.
[8:39:30 PM] Lucinda McNary says: And they run really well with embedded video.
[8:39:37 PM] NarcoticGetz says: god i could use coffee but im like, used to it so it doesnt hit me as hard
[8:39:49 PM] Ricky Grove says: Can you send me a link to some of your films, Lucinda?
[8:39:58 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Sure just a minute
[8:40:33 PM] Ricky Grove says: We've got "fusion" coffee here in LA; ginsing, some crazy speed shit and caffeine. Puts you "in the sky with diamonds".
[8:41:15 PM] Ben says: -ka-ching :)
[8:41:25 PM] Ricky Grove says: Ben. We need to talk about getting some classics up on machiniplex.
[8:41:37 PM] Ben says: among other things :)
[8:41:45 PM] Lucinda McNary says: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v3311551wYsPmJTh
[8:42:02 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Tht will take you to my latest VEOH online movie and then you can get to my page from there.
[8:42:03 PM] Ben says: like book reviews :)
[8:42:12 PM] NarcoticGetz says: woo
[8:42:18 PM] NarcoticGetz says: who doesnt?
[8:43:18 PM] Ricky Grove says: Got it. Thanks, Lucinda.
[8:43:26 PM] Ricky Grove says: Book reviews are coming.
[8:45:22 PM] Ricky Grove says: Ghost just walked across my grave.
[8:46:00 PM] Ricky Grove says: Full Stop.
[8:46:37 PM] Philip R. Rice says: http://www.mediatemple.net/
[8:48:01 PM] NarcoticGetz says: wait what am i missing?
[8:48:48 PM] Ricky Grove says: virtual servers link. Possible set up for better machinima conference, I believe. Dedicated server would allow us all to talk coherently and be understood.
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[8:49:04 PM] Will Vitale says: 2.4 celeron d processer, 256mb ram, and a geforce 6200 256card
[8:49:39 PM] Philip R. Rice says: We were talking about web hosts with good bandwidth.  Media Temple is the host I'm in the process of migrating all my sites to.
[8:49:40 PM] Ricky Grove says: Will...that set up is ancient. chop chop chop in Crysis.
[8:50:14 PM] Ricky Grove says: thought it was the one you were going to. But didn't you have good stuff coming from your old company, Phil?
[8:50:19 PM] Will Vitale says: i just want a pc that will run tf2
[8:50:27 PM] doogle300 says: ive got 2.99 ghz processor (dual core) 1gig of ram 160gb hard drive and nvidia geforce 8400 gs graphocs card
[8:50:34 PM] Elf says: I am using superb.net currently
[8:50:38 PM] Ricky Grove says: well, that one might not, Will.
[8:50:45 PM] Elf says: dedicated server with raid 1 mirrored disks and so on
[8:50:49 PM] Will Vitale says: hell no it wont
[8:50:54 PM] Elf says: they have been pretty good
[8:51:05 PM] Elf says: they're fairly large -- they host one of the sourceforge mirrors
[8:51:29 PM] Will Vitale says: i can turn everything down to its lowest specs, and it still runsat 10fps
[8:51:30 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Good, yeah, just needed to be able to have one host handle all my sites (Z-Studios, Overcast, Machinifeed, my personal sites).  Those were on separate Bluehost accounts, to divide up the bandwidth.  This host could handle all of them.
[8:51:56 PM] Elf says: it would be neat to have some shared machinima resources (though not necessarily practical)
[8:52:02 PM] Elf says: like an akamai subscription
[8:52:35 PM] Michael K Clements says: Is it private servers Philip?
[8:52:41 PM] Ricky Grove says: Got it, Phil. Makes sense.
[8:52:45 PM] Michael K Clements says: or is it shared with other sites?
[8:52:53 PM] Michael K Clements says: like other people's accounts
[8:53:02 PM] Elf says: Ricky: anyways I have an ok audio conference setup going
[8:53:12 PM] Elf says: it seems to be mostly mushy on the skype side, at least from my ear's perspective
[8:53:18 PM] Ricky Grove says: O
[8:53:19 PM] Elf says: it is on a dedicated server of course
[8:53:32 PM] Michael K Clements says: Cause the last time we got 'digg'd, we got hit hard and Dreamhost complained that we killed the server :) making several sites go down
[8:53:36 PM] ZachariahScott says: http://files.filefront.com/Unreal+Tournament+3+Beta+Demo/;8780331;/fileinfo.html
[8:53:38 PM] Ricky Grove says: Man, I've had nothing but trouble with skype for the last two months
[8:53:39 PM] ZachariahScott says: ut3 beta demo
[8:53:39 PM] Michael K Clements says: Personally I think that's a bonus
[8:53:41 PM] Philip R. Rice says: I think the Grid is shared, but with better redundancy than traditional shared (uses clusters).
[8:53:45 PM] doogle300 says: i just got dropped from the call
[8:53:53 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: http://www.bathtub-productions.com/ut3test.mov
[8:53:53 PM] doogle300 says: can i have an invite back please
[8:53:55 PM] Elf says: you can dial in via SIP though I think overman wanted to wait to test it out before sharing that
[8:54:02 PM] Elf says: I just set that up yesterday
[8:54:06 PM] Elf says: (using a SIP software phone)
[8:54:12 PM] Ricky Grove says: Ah..got to run and pick up my partner at work. Back soon...
[8:54:19 PM] Elf says: the 800 # terminates to the same phone switch, so it is all just unified
[8:54:33 PM] Philip R. Rice says: See you later, Ricky!
[8:54:38 PM] Elf says: bye
[8:54:47 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: bye ricky
[8:54:49 PM] doogle300 says: toodles
[8:54:55 PM] NarcoticGetz says: bye
[9:01:02 PM] NarcoticGetz says: lol bad lag
[9:01:09 PM] Michael K Clements says: Counter-Strike: Source + Garry's Mod
Includes: Counter-Strike: Source, Garry's Mod
[9:01:12 PM] Michael K Clements says: $24.95
[9:01:13 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Sorry, that was me (the call host).
[9:01:37 PM] NarcoticGetz says: ya for the 360
[9:01:51 PM] NarcoticGetz says: my pc could, if i didnt have like 3000 different problems
[9:02:08 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i miss starcraft :(
[9:02:23 PM] NarcoticGetz says: it got stolen
[9:02:47 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://storefront.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=package&SubId=558&s=0,1,265,11,25,542,294,45,79,90,606,353,357,358,359,364,366,371,434,452,469,218&i=0,7940,2310,8200,10,2320,8210,20,2330,8220,30,7200,2340,8230,40,300,2350,8240,50,8250,60,320,12100,70,9030,12110,9040,340,12120,2400,360,380,2430,130,12170,400,12180,2200,3480,3482,3483,4000,931,420,440,960,8400,211,215,985,218,987,220,7900,995,1002,1003,240,7670,6910&cc=GB&client=1
[9:02:50 PM] Michael K Clements says: TF2 and Gmod
[9:04:49 PM] ZachariahScott says: http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/33351
[9:04:56 PM] Lucinda McNary says: It is a music video and the online quality
[9:04:57 PM] ZachariahScott says: super mario engineer
[9:09:05 PM] NarcoticGetz says: so how many people have xbox live?
[9:09:33 PM] Michael K Clements says: I do, think majority of us do
[9:09:40 PM] Michael K Clements says: after hearing they had tf2 for the 360
[9:09:43 PM] NarcoticGetz says: my name is my GT
[9:09:56 PM] Elf says: I haven't really bought into consoles
[9:10:00 PM] doogle300 says: my gt is ....   doogle lawless
[9:10:01 PM] Elf says: except for the nintendo portables
[9:10:29 PM] Michael K Clements says: michaelkc
[9:10:34 PM] NarcoticGetz says: ya, i think it'd be nice to have people who know what their doing working alongside us while we make machinima
[9:12:08 PM] Ricky Grove says: I'm back. ;)
[9:12:21 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://litfusefilms.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/24-12-07_0940.jpg 

I got these :x
[9:12:37 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: welcome back
[9:12:46 PM] Ricky Grove says: Cute, Michael.
[9:12:55 PM] Michael K Clements says: For those portal fans
[9:13:41 PM] NarcoticGetz says: companion cube!
[9:13:44 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i want one!
[9:13:47 PM] Ricky Grove says: Hey, listen everyone; if you come across a really great machinima film,send me an email and tell me about it: rgrove@iliadbooks.com. We are looking for quality films for Machiniplex.
[9:13:50 PM] NarcoticGetz says: can i has one?
[9:14:23 PM] Michael K Clements says: lol sorry, only got 1 now
[9:14:29 PM] NarcoticGetz says: awww
[9:14:31 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://litfusefilms.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/06-12-07_1416.jpg < made these at work
[9:14:35 PM] NarcoticGetz says: ima go find one to buy
[9:14:56 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://litfusefilms.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/27-11-07_1610.jpg
[9:15:39 PM] NarcoticGetz says: companion sphere
[9:17:15 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i have 9.95 in my account .... v.v
[9:17:44 PM] Ricky Grove says: Anyone playing "The Witcher"?
[9:20:49 PM] NarcoticGetz says: your computer is dying
[9:21:11 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: i've heard good things about the witcher but haven't had time to play it :/
[9:21:14 PM] NarcoticGetz says: steam is about to esplode
[9:21:28 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i need caffinee
[9:21:34 PM] ZachariahScott says: I heard the witcher has some of that virtual sodomy like in masseffeck
[9:21:39 PM] NarcoticGetz says: and omg cliclicliclcicliclicklicloiclkiclckcklckikcilkclkiclkclckllkcklcckil'
[9:21:46 PM] NarcoticGetz says: mass effeck
[9:22:00 PM] NarcoticGetz says: oh ya
[9:22:03 PM] NarcoticGetz says: so bad
[9:22:17 PM] NarcoticGetz says: wrex was hot
[9:22:38 PM] NarcoticGetz says: well they didnt kill him you did!
[9:22:43 PM] Ricky Grove says: no sodomy (damn) but lots of adult content. Good gameply and great story. not too much clicking compared to dialblo or other click-type fighters. I like it a lot. Beautiful design.
[9:22:55 PM] ZachariahScott says: I think the game should be banned for one reason
[9:22:57 PM] ZachariahScott says: and one reason alone
[9:23:07 PM] ZachariahScott says: it makes seth mcfarlane into a likeable character
[9:23:14 PM] ZachariahScott says: truly an aberration
[9:23:26 PM] Ricky Grove says: Ah...good point. 10 quatloos for the newcomer.
[9:23:33 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i need ......... caffinee
[9:23:41 PM] Ricky Grove says: caffeine
[9:23:46 PM] ZachariahScott says: heh
[9:23:52 PM] Ricky Grove says: caffinee is a weak derivative
[9:23:52 PM] NarcoticGetz says: yes
[9:24:07 PM] NarcoticGetz says: im going to buy the actual game this week i hope
[9:24:12 PM] Ricky Grove says: which one?
[9:24:17 PM] ZachariahScott says: so like, just out of curiosity, what's the machinima pedigrees for those here? I gotta confess I'm not really familliar with y'all
[9:24:21 PM] NarcoticGetz says: it gives you that tingly feeling in your spine
[9:24:36 PM] Ricky Grove says: hehe, yeah, NG
[9:24:48 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://litfusefilms.com/ for Zach and I
[9:24:54 PM] doogle300 says: thats mainly because me narcotic and will arent well known at all we started out on h2 and havent reallyy done anything amazing yet
[9:25:00 PM] NarcoticGetz says: Newcomer: NarcoticGetz
[9:25:02 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: www.bathtub-productions.com for me
[9:25:29 PM] Michael K Clements says: it's down!
[9:25:37 PM] Ricky Grove says: Only the Strong Survive, The Snow Witch, Day's After and Edge or Remorse are some of my films (sound/acting)
[9:25:43 PM] NarcoticGetz says: meet me in the mall, its goin down
[9:25:48 PM] ZachariahScott says: I saw snow withc the other day, was great
[9:26:01 PM] Elf says: as far as the public knows, I just mostly write those technically oriented articles
[9:26:02 PM] ZachariahScott says: amd the other two.
[9:26:37 PM] Ricky Grove says: I like Snow Witch a lot. Michelle Petit-Mee (the director) is now working at Bioware.
[9:27:23 PM] Michael K Clements says: ohhh the snow witch, that was shown at the europe festival, I remember that
[9:27:24 PM] NarcoticGetz says: doogle, your money ..... its gone like the dodo
[9:27:35 PM] ZachariahScott says: stolen over the internets!?
[9:27:40 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i heard dodo
[9:27:54 PM] NarcoticGetz says: yes
[9:27:57 PM] NarcoticGetz says: stolen ...
[9:28:02 PM] NarcoticGetz says: but by WHOM!
[9:28:09 PM] Ricky Grove says: Yep. I think it won for "best writing" even though it was an adaptation (duh..)
[9:28:17 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i hate that
[9:28:30 PM] NarcoticGetz says: mine did me that to me yesterBRAINZZZZZ
[9:28:46 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Zach, I have used The Movies and then Moviestorm and I also have Antics 3D but I prefer Moviestorm over all of them.  I also have Sims 2 but never made any movies with it.
[9:29:03 PM] Lucinda McNary says: And I am very experienced in using any graphics arts programs
[9:29:14 PM] NarcoticGetz says: omg
[9:29:17 PM] NarcoticGetz says: hawt
[9:29:30 PM] NarcoticGetz says: got it for my wii
[9:30:12 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I just got Unreal Tournament III which has all the editor tools, etc with it but I haven't used it yet.
[9:31:31 PM] Ricky Grove says: LM, Unreal III is very cool. The tools are great. Be sure to check out the tutorials at 3dbuzz.com. They are also included with the Deluxe version of UTIII. I'll probably be using the engine for a BIIIIIGG project I'm working on for the end of the year.
[9:31:59 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: those video tutorials are very helpful :)
[9:32:12 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorials.html
[9:32:49 PM] NarcoticGetz says: being a modern day pirate is a nice thing isnt it
[9:32:51 PM] Michael K Clements says: or theBLANKbay.org
[9:33:01 PM] ZachariahScott says: stfu
[9:33:07 PM] Michael K Clements says: gtfo
[9:33:13 PM] ZachariahScott says: rtfm
[9:33:23 PM] Ricky Grove says: those video copilot tuts look interesting but the COST too much! I like em free.
[9:33:23 PM] Michael K Clements says: plop
[9:33:36 PM] Michael K Clements says: they are free ricky
[9:33:38 PM] Ricky Grove says: gtfstfgtfoh
[9:33:40 PM] Michael K Clements says: the tut videos are below
[9:34:12 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://www.videocopilot.net/tutorial.html?id=95
[9:34:31 PM] Ricky Grove says: duh, now I get it. Re-boot brain.
[9:35:49 PM] Ricky Grove says: Any you can recommend in particular, Michael?
[9:36:11 PM] Michael K Clements says: ummm the text ones are really good for introductions and credits in machinima I'd say
[9:36:17 PM] Michael K Clements says: really ramps up the production value
[9:36:27 PM] ZachariahScott says: also the color correction ones
[9:36:30 PM] Michael K Clements says: yeah
[9:36:38 PM] ZachariahScott says: AND ones like dynamic blur pulling
[9:36:41 PM] ZachariahScott says: and the intro on the wiggler
[9:36:49 PM] Ricky Grove says: Do they have anything on that "burnt" color look that's so popular now?
[9:36:53 PM] Michael K Clements says: overall the tutorials will focus on a certain thing, but you'll learn techniques to use for other things
[9:36:55 PM] ZachariahScott says: most definately
[9:37:02 PM] ZachariahScott says: that's a bleach bypass that you're talking about I think
[9:37:03 PM] Elf says: if you go upwards (in the forum) from today's subject article there are also some things that people might find useful
[9:37:09 PM] Ricky Grove says: Cool.
[9:37:38 PM] Elf says: Ricky: Sepia tones or harsh colors?
[9:37:51 PM] ZachariahScott says: its more just basic color correction.
[9:37:57 PM] Ricky Grove says: I'm learning AE3 right now. you guys know good sites for learning. Ah, harsh colors or saturated look.
[9:37:58 PM] Elf says: the harsh colors are bleach bypass but sepia is something different
[9:38:05 PM] ZachariahScott says: I like to raise contrast and lower desaturation personally
[9:38:16 PM] Ricky Grove says: 
bleach bypass?
[9:38:26 PM] Elf says: that's just a film term, from the development process
[9:38:32 PM] Ricky Grove says: ah...
[9:38:33 PM] NarcoticGetz says: zach... are your keys sticky? you sound like your mashin them things pretty hard...
[9:38:51 PM] ZachariahScott says: bleach bypass is a way to alter saturation without blowing the picture out
[9:39:10 PM] ZachariahScott says: basically keeping the definition of the original colors, but also gettting the benefit of altered saturation etc
[9:39:54 PM] Ricky Grove says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach_bypass
[9:39:59 PM] Ricky Grove says: Sounds fascinating
[9:40:16 PM] NarcoticGetz says: this is sparta ...
[9:40:27 PM] Ricky Grove says: I drink your milkshake!
[9:41:19 PM] NarcoticGetz says: i want sundae
[9:41:47 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Final Cut is really expensive. Is it worth it?
[9:42:16 PM] Michael K Clements says: I'll show you guys a 300 spoof title I did in AEffects, plus it has a funny gmod bit after it.
[9:42:28 PM] doogle300 says: i wouldthink so because it really chaNGES THE STYLE OF EDITING THAT YOU CAN DO ITS WAY MORE PROFESIONAL (SCUSE THE CAPS)
[9:42:34 PM] Elf says: that really just depends on your workflow
[9:42:44 PM] ZachariahScott says: CAPS ARE THE WAY TO GO
[9:42:49 PM] Ricky Grove says: Let's see, Micheal.
[9:42:59 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://litfusefilms.com/003destroy.wmv
[9:43:00 PM] doogle300 says: lmao I MEAN LMAO
[9:43:28 PM] Elf says: if you like editing on a Mac, want a kitchen sink type app (tons of filters, effects, etc.) for your NLE, then final cut is great
[9:43:49 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Right it is only for the Mac. Okay I have a PC anyway
[9:44:02 PM] Elf says: personally like I said earlier I favor Avid
[9:44:10 PM] Ricky Grove says: Very amusing, Micheal. THIS IS SPARTA!
[9:44:12 PM] Lucinda McNary says: And I have Sony Vegas but I havent used it yet. I also have Pinnacle Studio 11 and all the upgrades and I know how to use it. It is easy to use
[9:44:24 PM] Michael K Clements says: lol so retarded having a spartan come in and destroy a tea party
[9:44:39 PM] Elf says: it is sort of minimalistic; really for just focusing on editing -- it caters to a workflow where postproduction is before the editing process
[9:44:46 PM] Ricky Grove says: monty python type humor. GREAT!
[9:44:49 PM] Elf says: but very efficient
[9:44:50 PM] Lucinda McNary says: You all talk all at once.  You are worse than we women are
[9:45:06 PM] Ricky Grove says: sorry.. :(
[9:45:15 PM] Lucinda McNary says: LOL Iam just teasing you
[9:45:21 PM] Ricky Grove says: :D
[9:45:27 PM] Elf says: Avid has a difficult learning curve according to most people though
[9:45:30 PM] Elf says: it is very keyboard based
[9:45:38 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Ive been around more men than women my whole life
[9:45:48 PM] Elf says: (I am just lumping all the various avid NLE products together of course -- they are fairly similar in interface)
[9:46:16 PM] Michael K Clements says: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ycGwFJbGfbo < this was a scary movie test I did a while back
[9:47:17 PM] Ricky Grove says: Nice one, M. How did you get the shakey effect in HL2?
[9:47:25 PM] Michael K Clements says: After effects baby
[9:47:33 PM] Michael K Clements says: wiggle is legendary
[9:47:49 PM] Ricky Grove says: ah, yes. which brings me back to my question: where can I find some good AE tuts, baby.
[9:47:50 PM] Michael K Clements says: that videocopilot tutorials use it for things like text
[9:47:55 PM] Ricky Grove says: perfect.
[9:47:55 PM] ZachariahScott says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mOqciH7UbAg
[9:47:59 PM] Michael K Clements says: I linked a few dude,
[9:48:00 PM] ZachariahScott says: I love starship troopers that much
[9:48:02 PM] ZachariahScott says: oh
[9:48:03 PM] ZachariahScott says: doh
[9:49:04 PM] Ricky Grove says: Great, Micheal. Man, you guys do great work.
[9:49:19 PM] Michael K Clements says: That text in that video Zach posted, is AE again
[9:49:21 PM] Ricky Grove says: Crazy Talk for some of the lip sync?
[9:49:44 PM] Michael K Clements says: Lip Sync is done using Face Poser (a program that comes with source games)
[9:50:17 PM] Ricky Grove says: Yeah, I know about FP. Should have realized you'd probably be using it for lipsync. hard, but good program
[9:50:38 PM] ZachariahScott says: yeah lipsync is all in faceposer
[9:50:46 PM] Michael K Clements says: yeah, we get all our voices done and lip sync them
[9:50:56 PM] Ricky Grove says: Good acting!
[9:51:18 PM] Michael K Clements says: just wish we could make them open their mouths more :P not very good for screaming
[9:51:32 PM] Ricky Grove says: limitation of FP?
[9:52:09 PM] Michael K Clements says: limits of the faces, TF2's models are much better since they yell and stuff ingame
[9:52:17 PM] Michael K Clements says: like the heavy guy
[9:52:47 PM] Ricky Grove says: Gotcha. Are you guys going to make more films in TF2?
[9:53:15 PM] Michael K Clements says: you know, we were gonna do a series in TF2 ages ago when Sony pictures was interested in us, but when it came around we kinda fell short
[9:53:37 PM] Michael K Clements says: and now we just wanna do short movies, so whatever we come up with, we see which game would suit best
[9:53:55 PM] Michael K Clements says: we haven't really sat down and thought recently "I wanna do a TF2 vid"
[9:54:09 PM] Michael K Clements says: it's more like "I have this idea and I think it'd work best in Portal"
[9:54:22 PM] Ricky Grove says: Ah, shit, too bad. I hope you do some more. I remember a recent film you did that was very well done. Had a slightly serious tone that I liked.
[9:54:34 PM] Michael K Clements says: Ignis Solus?
[9:54:49 PM] Michael K Clements says: or was it not a TF2 vid?
[9:55:04 PM] Ricky Grove says: ah, yes. How the hell could I forget a unique title like that. yes, Ignis Solus. Very well done. Great work.
[9:55:26 PM] Michael K Clements says: The launch of that video couldn't have been better
[9:55:40 PM] Ricky Grove says: I know. you guys must have had server overload
[9:55:47 PM] Michael K Clements says: I don't think we realised but TF2 was coming out "officially" the next day
[9:55:57 PM] Ricky Grove says: :D
[9:56:11 PM] Michael K Clements says: so like gametrailers, kotaku, cadcomic, gamevideos, youtube all those sites just ate it up
[9:56:18 PM] Michael K Clements says: some thought VALVe did it :x
[9:56:35 PM] Ricky Grove says: Hell, it was good enough quality for Valve to have released, I think.
[9:56:59 PM] Michael K Clements says: VALVe cheat :P they have paid animators! :(
[9:57:12 PM] Ricky Grove says: hee hee..cheaters!
[9:57:20 PM] Ricky Grove says: You see the recent Life of a Turret vid?
[9:57:27 PM] Michael K Clements says: no I haven't
[9:57:46 PM] Ricky Grove says: It's a bit tongue in cheek, but witty and shot very well.
[9:57:56 PM] Ricky Grove says: acting is excellent
[9:58:13 PM] Michael K Clements says: brrb
[9:58:47 PM] Ricky Grove says: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/162027.html?playlist=featured
[10:02:00 PM] Damien (Darth Angelus) says: back to writing, see you guys :)
[10:02:16 PM] Ricky Grove says: take care!
[10:12:21 PM] doogle300 says: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5733044300866646599
[10:12:40 PM] Lucinda McNary says: One quick question.  What level do you calibrate your monitor?  What brightness level because it changes the way your movie looks - as far as the scene being day or night.
[10:13:19 PM] Elf says: gamma moreso than brightness
[10:13:29 PM] Ricky Grove says: I don't calibrate my monitor. i just use instinct and try to pay attention. I suppose calibration would probably help.
[10:14:25 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Okay
[10:14:43 PM] Michael K Clements says: Lit Fuse Ventrilo just for future reference
address: ventrilo1.ldn.powervs.com
port: 5002
[10:14:53 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I mean I have mine set the way I like it but if I set my color levels in my movie to make a night scene it might be too dark for someone else's monitor.
[10:15:08 PM] Ricky Grove says: thanks, Mike.
[10:15:17 PM] ZachariahScott says: woah
[10:15:19 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Of course there is no way to know how other people have their monitors set.
[10:15:19 PM] ZachariahScott says: I AM STILL HERE?
[10:15:30 PM] Lucinda McNary says: But I noticed a lot of the movies I watched on Moviestorm were too dark.
[10:15:31 PM] ZachariahScott says: yeah
[10:15:40 PM] Elf says: Lucinda: That's mostly gamma correction moreso than brightness
[10:15:40 PM] Ricky Grove says: I suppose one way around the "too dark" situation is to test your film on several monitors (friends).
[10:15:48 PM] Elf says: it is inherent to the type of monitor, if LCD, and operating system
[10:15:54 PM] ZachariahScott says: I've got two monitors, one is tweaked to my liking, the other I just leave on default.  I kind of try to balance between the two
[10:16:04 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Yes I guess there is no perfect way when you do movies for the internet
[10:16:07 PM] ZachariahScott says: aye
[10:16:19 PM] Elf says: between mac and windows usually people do a gamma correction
[10:16:22 PM] ZachariahScott says: if at all possible to test your video on a regular TV, thats probably the most universal judge
[10:16:35 PM] Lucinda McNary says: So far I havent had any complaints about color in my movies. Okay,r egular TV I will try that.
[10:16:36 PM] Elf says: usually for platform specific video types, like quicktime or wmv
[10:16:47 PM] Elf says: regular TVs have problems too though, especially NTSC
[10:16:58 PM] Elf says: broadcast engineers spend a lot of time tuning colors
[10:17:21 PM] doogle300 says: thanks for letting me join guys this was a great experience
[10:17:26 PM] NarcoticGetz says: ya
[10:17:44 PM] Lucinda McNary says: By doogle300  Nice to meet you.
[10:17:49 PM] doogle300 says: see ya around
[10:17:49 PM] Elf says: bye
[10:17:51 PM] NarcoticGetz says: thanks for letting us join in, hopefully will be in the next one
[10:17:56 PM] Ricky Grove says: For a long time I used a small sony monitor which helped with color correction. but I don't use it any more. Not that many color problems to work on.
[10:17:57 PM] ZachariahScott says: hello?
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[10:17:59 PM] ZachariahScott says: ping?
[10:18:09 PM] Ricky Grove says: ping.
[10:18:09 PM] ZachariahScott says: okay, I'm still here
[10:18:13 PM] NarcoticGetz says: bye gyes, have fun
[10:18:19 PM] Elf says: pong
[10:18:19 PM] Lucinda McNary says: bye Narc
[10:18:19 PM] ZachariahScott says: peace bro
[10:18:37 PM] Elf says: bye
[10:18:43 PM] Philip R. Rice says: Good night everyone!  (on the phone)
[10:19:01 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Well I turned the brightness down and the gamma up to 10% and I like that. Brightness at 25%,gamma at 10%
[10:19:01 PM] ZachariahScott says: for us it's far more likely that people will complain about an audio problem than a color problem
[10:19:06 PM] NarcoticGetz says: good night, and i'll see you all ... when i can, if you have xbox live add me
[10:19:12 PM] Ricky Grove says: Take care, Phil!
[10:19:16 PM] NarcoticGetz says: ^ my GT
[10:19:26 PM] ZachariahScott says: for example, ,when our audio is fine on the teams speakers when we test it, but the viewers listen on weird setups where things don't sound great
[10:19:30 PM] Lucinda McNary says: I have an Acer flat screen 20 inch monitor
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[10:19:37 PM] Ricky Grove says: G'night. I think I'm going to head out too. Take dcare everyone!
[10:19:40 PM] ZachariahScott says: peace
[10:19:42 PM] Lucinda McNary says: Bye Ricky
[10:19:45 PM] Elf says: yeah low end speakers or headphones can sound horrible
[10:20:19 PM] Elf says: generally I think for TV and to a lesser extent CD releases and so on people EQ it to sound good on boomboxes, regular speakers, etc.
[10:20:28 PM] Elf says: but phil/ricky could probably say more about the subject
[10:20:34 PM] Elf says: bye ricky
[10:24:52 PM] Elf says: oh well, I am done for today too, I think
[10:25:08 PM] ZachariahScott says: night
[10:25:12 PM] Lucinda McNary says: bye Elf